I understand Tams, and thank you for bringing a voice from the casual crowd into the discussion. I didn't want any of this, but it seems it has been on an unavoidable spiral for a few weeks now. At the moment it doesn't seem like we will recover from this, unless enough people want us to, but your post has given me reason to try. The same thought has been running through my mind also 'Why, over a stupid game?' (well it's not stupid, but you know what I mean), no matter how much fun people try to inject into it, when it comes to raiding especially, things like this will always arise it seems.

And what Vicky says is true, we do not speak as one voice, she had nothing to do with what I've written, as I often do not have anything to do with what she writes. I'll let her write for herself, as I know she'll word it much better than I ever could. Of course I'll always support her, but if I say something she disagrees with, she'll bloody well disagree I'm sure. ~^

Noo you didn't Elu, it was something I said that was mistaken for a personal attack that did it.

I think the whole thing has gone kaploofie because of confuddled communication, and people misunderstanding intentions (veeery easy to do via text)

Oh, and calling me a liar Steve?

For christ's sake. I've told you numerous times that that post was not aimed at Eluziel in any way, shape or form. I'm not mentioning the name of the person who it was aimed at. It's not fair to them.

Unlike someone I know, I don't kiss and tell.

<sigh> I don't understand why I became the target of this post. This post is Jay and Neil's, not here to bitch. My apologies for my own posts.

Jay, I'm really sorry about your decision.. I didn't get a chance to say earlier, I'd had an e-mail through and after reading what was said here, I was a little upset and not thinking straight.

I'd like to speak to you guys later if I may. It's up to you.

As chris said the whole thing has gone boom. Over what, a bunch of pixels. Really stupid and I know I didnt help (I didnt add fuel to the argument I napalmed it) and for what its worth I am sorry.